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Required fields are marked *. But in the book of Job, God never rebuked Elihu, no sacrifice was commanded by God to be offered because of Gods anger being kindled, only against Jobs three friends. Confusion abounds over Elihu because he sounds like Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar, drawing the same conclusion: Job has sinned. God always has a ram in the bush and Elihu my Brothers and Sisters was that R.A.M(Righteousness Always Manisfest). Is so much written for no purpose. I won't go into depth here, I just suggest Job gets it. I may be grasping at straws but the most likely scenario is that a few verses are lost in the annals of the oral tradition which gave us the book. All that to say that I do not believe God is trying to crush Job, as so many commentators have suggested. The boils were “sore.” Pain all over his body. Therefore, in Joh 3:16 God send his begotten son to save us and give us a mind like His. Though, Ellihu was not a priest he spoke like one. We have died with Christ, we have been buried with Christ, we have been raised with Christ and we are seated in heavenly places with Christ. God is intentionally addressing this issue, and in my estimation intentionally engineers the entire scenario from the start, for the purpose of addressing this issue. As a saved Christian we are dead. Others suggest the purpose is to intimidate Job into submission. Exactly what I was thinking. Job wasn’t perfect. God was his Everything and Creator of All things Natural and Spiritual. And he repented 40:4, 42:6 You can sign up for our email list (enter your address in the box on the upper right of this page), follow us on. If one try to build upon any other foundation it is not love. Not Mr. Nice, said historian Vakula S Varadarajan. I can only remind you that the book opens proclaiming Job's righteousness (1:1), God himself affirms Job's righteousness twice at the beginning (1:8, 2:3) and then at the end says to Eliphaz, "My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath" (42:7). That’s a clear principle throughout the whole Bible. But Elihu explained that age does not necessarily bring wisdom but it is the spirit of a man that the breath of the Almighty breathes on which gives the man understanding. Job is seeing clearly the majesty of God, the wrath of God, the mercy of God, the grace of God, the patience of God. What makes you think that Elihu if an angel were younger than Eliphaz? It is not found in the land of the living, why? Can we get to the bottom of the mystery? See Revelation 13:8 Thanks for visiting Knowable Word! In a law the jury does not speak until all sides are heard, that’s what Elliehu did. I find it very interesting that in a lot of the analysis on Job, many of the comments seem to criticize Job just like everyone else does. Also the “would that Job were tried to the end, for he speaks like wicked men” it literally shows an intimate knowledge of what is going on spiritually. I know it’s hard to understand this in the flesh but we are one in the Spirit. He spoke more wisely than the three put together because he depended on God for the Word Job needed not from a place of freshly feelings emotions and accusations. But keep in mind that God also leveled at Job four chapters’ worth of what is probably the harshest rebuke in all of Scripture (Job 38-41). Used by permission. All we know is that the three were completely wrong and in their small minds who thought of themselves as to be wise, should teach us all something. Could it be the Lamb that was slain? The reason is simple, the three friends are going to be rebuked sharply for not telling the truth, and since Elihu agrees with them, well... it may explain why Elihu does not stay to the end of the book. Job is a son of Adam, as we all are, therefore he is subject to the independance from God, which was first expressed by Adam and Eve. That should put the question to rest. It’s the same thing now, one world, one people trying to build a tower to heaven. Alors s'enflamma de colère Elihu ('Eliyhuw), fils de Barakeel de Buz, de la famille de Ram. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. The book starts out, Chapter 1, Line 1: “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.” Job is perfect, and I think most commentators would agree with me, he is perfect in the ways of the law. My first learned verse was Job 28:28 He was angry as well at his three friends, because they found no reply, but merely condemned Job. Elihu in the other hand , a form of Christ came to mend our relationship with God , by pointing out where we haven fallen short and lead us (Job) to repentance . He was a mouthpiece for God and Job’s life was changed forever because of that young man’s obedience. and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause” (2:3). The one person? Acrostic Poem About ELIHU. Mother Teresa does not escape this revelation. The book of Job & specifically Elihu helped me through a major trial. After all, just like new wineskins that are unvented and about the burst due to the fermentation process (Job 32:19), Elihu cannot contain himself. Job does not know enough to save us from ourselves. This was where Job got it wrong, he thought his sacrifice to God and giving to the less fortunate is sufficient for God to exempt from further suffering. Interesting: Elihu points out being a human., ch 33, vs 6, “I too was pinched off from a piece of clay.” As with everything else in scripture, Elihu likely points to Jesus. Genesis 22:21 is probably the best connection between Ram [Aram] and Buz, the second son of Nahor, the brother of Abraham.. At least the record in Job 32:2 has those details. The show of hands was evenly divided. Send us will publish. Secondly, Elihu is dead wrong at times. Sa colère s'enflamma contre Job, parce qu'il se disait juste devant Dieu. God says that they will achieve it unless “they” the trinity step in just like at the Tower of Babel. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. God will not tolerate disrespect and it’s obvious that Elihu’s perspective of God is without experience of longevity. God does not honor anyone who will not submit. You did a phenomenal job on setting the record straight. The poet signals a difference in the number of speeches and responses he gives to each character. The thing I noticed as well, is that the Lord only told the three friends and not Elihu to make a sacrifice and have Job pray for them. This theory I won't dispute one way or the other, except to say that if the implication is that chapters 32 through 37 should be deleted from the book or should otherwise be demoted, I would strongly resist. Two things that should be noted right off: he speaks out of anger (32:5), and he claims the inspired wisdom of the Holy Spirit (Job 32:8). Pray for revelation knowledge concerning his advice and see what the spirit reveals. Jesus is our justified.. What he suffered shows us something about Jesus christ. Yet, a lot of contemporary comments about Job are just like the ancient ones from his friends! He needed PERSPECTIVE. I love how he was angry because Job didn’t justify God. So he lost his whole family, servants, animals. I was surprised in reading this book again, waiting for the wisdom of God’s speaking starting in chapter 38. 3. I thought the same, that Elihu is either an angel or God himself. Isn’t that a phony boast? To suggest that Elihu is Jesus or an angel of God would suggest that God approves of this blatant twisting of the truth. This can be and usually is figured as pride or rebellion. Does this raise a red flag for anyone else? Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are as essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. The cross has the blood the opposite direction bottom (feet nailed) and both side (hands)… it makes the Star of David when you put this together. Elihu, also spelled Eliu, in the Hebrew Bible, a comforter of Job, the biblical prototype of undeserved suffering. He then follows with a quote of Job: "For he hath said, 'It profiteth a man nothing that he should delight himself with God.' I can only analyze the character of Elihu and what he has to say from what is contained in the Book of Job. I encourage you to visit the home page of my website where i have some historical documentation and images concerning Early Church and 1Cor 11 . All of Job‘s relatives came and comforted him-of which Elihu was one. As Job already had so many children when the was attacked by satan, & since he had so many after the suffering, & since his wife really looks bad; it is my guess that Job lost the old battleaxe & got a new young woman wife for his new batch of children. His response: “Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped” (1:20). Most of what YHWH says, is not saying that Job is wrong, but that Job lacks the knowledge to understand God’s plans. (34:35-36). Thanks! Does he not have a reason resist the persistent accusations of his friends? In verse 8, God sets things in motion by asking Satan, “Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” The perfection of Job is no idle opinion. Perhaps he was as Melchizedek, a king and priest of righteousness and peace, as a man. There is no other way to heaven except by/through the blood of Jesus. God's challenge to Job is simple: Do you know what I have done and what I have intended (38:4-38)? See my blog on the same topic https://www.sonsofsimon.org/2018/05/25/job-and-elihu/. When Job fails to answer, Elihu begins to speak again, and in his second speech (Job 34.1-37), he vigorously attacks Job’s denial of God’s justice (Job 34.5-6). Elihu is not frequently used as a baby boy name. You stated Elihu was a “mouthpiece” for God. Jesus says on this Rock(Himself) I build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. There is no question, "I know they said some bad things, but will you pray for them?" Still others think Elihu is at … Alain is on the right track here. Elihu is a proud, judgmental, zealot, but not a friend of God. Top and both sides had to have the blood. However, the scripture als declared that there’s not a righteous man on earth who does good and not sin(Ecclesiastes 7:20). But to look on God in his glory is to die so he couldn’t be seeing God as the spiritual entity he is. God never ignores anyone and Elihu is the ram. My analysis of the Book of Job puts that issue directly in the center of God's final speech to Job. For truely my words are not false; One who is perfect in knowledge is with you’. For he addeth rebellion unto his sin, he clappeth his hands among us, and multiplieth his words against God." Does not God speak for Himself in this story? The edification regarding God’s nature comes from Elihu who’s words about God’s power are expanded upon by God. A lot to pray about in your words here. Hello. The first words God speaks are a clear challenge: “Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?” Let me take a slight sidestep, in order frame my commentary: What we know as Original Sin, was a deliberate choice on the part of Adam (and Eve) to choose “the Knowledge of Good and Evil”. “Job is perfect and upright” GOD said to satan “hast thou considered my servant Job” a perfect and upright man. He was always there looking at the heart of all five of the men. See Jeremiah chapter 1 Surely God is not allowing Job to suffer for no reason. Elihu's introduction ends with the note that he will tell it like it is and not flatter anyone (Job 32:21-22). Using this lens, could Elihu represent a Christ-like Messiah that the ancient Israelites were expecting or even desiring to come and relieve them of their suffering? Elihu’s charges were about Job’s conduct during his suffering. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. So where was Elihu??? What’s all the fuss? Thanks so much! Coming toward the later part of the chapter Elihu spoke and Job could not answer him because he recognized the voice of God in Him and through him. How could any man be “prefect in knowledge”? Thank you for the thoughts shared,was so fearful of blasphemy. Elihu, however, constantly brings specific evidence to support his charges: “You say…You say…You say…You say…” (Job 33:8-11, 33:13, 34:5-6, 35:2-3, 36:23). So it is my guess that his wife died. Elihu. Because unless “they” come down and scatter them nothing they (people) purpose to do shall be impossible for them. After years of reading & wondering about this, I now get it! You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. When Adam and Eve sinned they hid from God and made fig leaves to cover themselves, but God made for them skins… so God made the 1st sacrifice in the beginning. I do agree that God’s reproof was gentle. How do you know that Elihu ever had eaten bread in the house of Job before? whose God is he. No angels are presented with human lineage. Chapter 38:4 (21:14-15). Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar perpetually argue: “Before you began suffering, you must have sinned.” Elihu’s case is different: “Since you began suffering, you have sinned.” The three concern themselves with Job’s hidden conduct; Elihu concerns himself with Job’s present speech. I think that the real test that Job failed can be found in (1 Corinthians 10:12-13 NLT) 12 If you think you are standing strong, be careful not to fall. He came to his senses quickly and realized that God is Almighty and Powerful and he was a mere mortal that got besides himself. If it were, JEHOVAH wouldn’t have spoken to him, would HE? & Job never found out those plans in this story. Years of deep study has left me with fearful questions regarding the “enigma”named,’Elihu’.Even so far as thoughts of manifestation of ……{dare I say},, The Lord. speeches but simply maintain either that they are a later addition. Whether as an addition or part of the original manuscript, the speeches of Elihu do contribute to the narrative. The characterization is unfair, and does not play well with God (42:7). Elihu. Show love and compassion . Have you wondered how to read Elihu? He sovereignly placed Elihu at the scene just like he did everyone else present and allowed his words to be recorded in divinely inspired scripture. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. To: Rachel . at least relatively so compared with the 3 friends. To be a messiah or to walk in christ one must speak for themselves like Elihu did building upon the foundation of christ. Elihu was presented as ” Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the family of Ram” He was a man with human lineage. Therefore recognize no one according to the flesh any longer… including yourselves. For sure, contention can quickly become ugly and destructive, but, as iron sharpens iron (Proverbs 27:17), contending brings growth and maturity. Right on, Rose! What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? The whole world has become Babel… confusion. Some commentators suggest that Elihu is a later addition to the book, since his brief appearance leaves no trace. We are dead… to depart from evil is to understand we have died to this world. And God does mention Elihu afterwards. He sneers, "Job hath said 'I am righteous'... What man is like Job, who drinketh up scorning like water? Yet he was overlooked and associated with the “three friends of Job”, who by the way were clearly jealous of job and always wanted to find an accusation against him. I recognized that his speeches were different from the three friends as they truly reflected the character and attributes of God, but thank you for breaking up the study into chewable sizes.Your study of Job has taken my love for the book to an entirely new level….thank you and keep you the great work. See also the related categories, yiddish, english, french, and scandinavian. I think this book is missing a vital piece. That was a lie. Jesus is the lamb that was slain from/before the foundation of the world. He must have been one of God’s Angels(Raphael??). He is never mentioned in the rest of the book. Romans 3:22. to redeem us from our mistakes. I take the person of Elihu at face value. The gloves are off. Elihu Rangel is on Facebook. I thought the same, that Elihu is either an angel or God himself. God challenges Job (40:8-13), if you have the understanding, if you have the strength, if you have the majestic countenance of God, then put an end to sin and bring justice about. If Elihu is only addressing Job’s alleged sins after Job’s satan-imposed suffering begins, then that means that for Elihu, after satan did such extreme punishment to Job, YHWH added to that punishment with chastising; then per Elihu, had Job not sinned during his suffering, God would have ended his suffering sooner. Elihu is not implying that Job is suffering because he is being punished. HE didn’t once make Job feel bad about himself: only bad about his speaking wrong and without understanding. Furious at the stalemate and their inability to answer Job, Elihu promises he has something new to say: “[Job] has not directed his words against me, and I will not answer him with your speeches” (Job 32:14). Elihu's value to the narrative of the Book of Job is first of all a summation of arguments. In fact, like all the speeches of the three friends, I would place Elihu's speeches in an isolated catagory which does not carry God's approval necessarily, any more than do my words necessarily carry God's authority. Elihu is certainly god in the flesh! IMHO Ecclesiastes is mostly Solomon reasoning UNDER THE SUN. My conclusion: Job is perfectly righteous, but until he stops clinging to the law (the knowledge of good and evil) he cannot grasp the “Tree of Life”. ), and full of criticism for Job (Job 33:12, 34:7-8, 34:35-37, etc.). (33:32-33). But this is doubtful exegesis. It is the height of dogmatic foolishness to suggest he should be justifying God in the face of direct assaults on his character. Listen to Elihu Del Angel | SoundCloud is an audio platform that lets you listen to what you love and share the sounds you create.. 3 Followers. In Job 36:4 Elihu states that “one perfect in knowledge is with you”. by an unknown author, 15 or that they are a compilation by a later This encompasses works righteousness, justification by faith, grace, the need for a savior, and a hundred other issues. But the question persists. Nor did Job give God glory. ELIHU Numerology Analysis; High ability of Persuasion , Patriotic , Helpful , Somber , Gentle . Elihu is a form of the English and Welsh Ellis. It is not ranked within the top 1000. But Elihu charges him with sin, just as the other three do. Satan does not suggest any such thing. Job represents the helpless state of man and the need for a saviour. He is mysterious, but he is not God. I don't want to get off into a long discussion of contending with God here, but I do want to suggest that if God is deeply offended by it, why are men like Jacob, or Jonah, or for that matter, Paul, listed among the greats. And, like God, Elihu both corrects Job where he is wrong and praises Job where he is right. He does beg for an advocate. Therefore he plead with God,but there was no one to save him. God is love and love can only build upon itself. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Finally, Elihu has some lofty rhetoric in praise of God and condemnation of the wicked, but when God does appear, where is he? God asks Job a question which He then Himself gives the answer: It made me bristle. Elihu himself distances himself from the other three. Jesus Loves you Elihu: “Job has sinned” (Job 34:7, 37; 35:16). HE drove home the point without kicking the man when he was down. Did GOD wish that on him? In Job’s defense to his three friend’s he declared that he is righteous and does not deserve this trial. In 1887, nearly 50 years prior to Morgan’s little publication, Franz Delitzsch had delivered a series of lectures on Messianic prophecies. Unfortunately, outside of the fact that Job is a son of Adam, the answer is, Job has done nothing wrong, he is perfect (1:1). Further, your error seems to have affirmed other people’s misguided assessments. As a custom the youngest always went last an the eldest go first out of respect. Awesome Rose!! You inspired me to go back and read Elihu’s chapters again. God in His grace and mercy breaks Job off of the branch of Adam preparing him for the true vine. The effort to somehow elevate Elihu to the book of Job he comes back we will be with..., simply peerless Nahor ( Job 8:5-6, 18:4 ) also Elihu is a form of the.... Is a form of the English and Welsh Ellis angrier with his 3.. Like God, Elihu did not to condemn instead he came to save a in. Accusing Job of sinning before the foundation of Christ is and not flatter anyone Job. Speaking ; Elihu ’ s a solid foundation all on its own of leaps.! 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